4/24/25 Zoom Transcription…

All right. Welcome, everyone, you know. We can give Melissa a moment, or we’ll do. We’ll start one check in.

and then she can. She can jump in in a minute, so we don’t wait too long. Let’s do that.

so I will get the check in question, and remember there’s no right answer. Here. I’m not looking. We’re not looking for anything whatever comes to mind. Just use the question as a prompt please.

All right, share.

Renee Beth Poindexter

00:00:36

This is on regenerative systems, this.

Don White

00:00:39

Yes, it is.

Renee Beth Poindexter

00:00:40

Right just to create the context for the recording right.

Don White

00:00:44

Thank you, Rene Beth. Yes, regenerative systems, assignment number 6.

And how regenerative systems are enabled by technology.

And if you’d like to, you can use this slide as a

as a mind opener eliminating waste in the circular economy. Sufficiency means eliminating the concept of waste. If you want to use that fine if you don’t fine too. So the check-in.

What’s an example of regeneration or a regenerative system in your life?

And then how is this? A. How is a deeper understanding of regenerative systems changing your life?

So 1st an example of one in your life, and then

how does your deeper understanding of regenerative systems change your life.

and if it doesn’t, that’s fine, too. Maybe you’re already. Everybody here is

pretty advanced. So maybe you’ve already thought about this, and the big changes are behind you. But who would like to begin.

Katie Albee

00:01:48

Like discounts. So I told, and I shared this with you. I don’t know if I shared it with you guys. I talk a lot

I shared with Kanji, I said. You know, every 2 to 3 years

my business changes, and I was like kind of concerned about it. And he said, Katie, that’s called evolution. And so every 2 to 3 years my business does change. And so right now it’s in another

huge shift.

And even the other night. I didn’t share this with any of you. Besides, Peter, the other night I had a dream that said the only thing that I remember it said, what are you willing to let go of to

let this new stuff in? It didn’t say stuff this new way of being in. And so it’s really interesting, just allowing things to be, because I still don’t fully know the answer. Also I know that it will answer itself

as I relax and trust.

Don White

00:02:46

That’s huge, and knowing that it will answer itself is, you trust. How does that make you feel.

Katie Albee

00:02:53

More comfortable now. But I wasn’t as comfortable earlier, and even

Recently Peter and I were talking about what we’re creating, and I don’t remember what we were saying, but he said, you know.

and I don’t know what’s gonna happen, and I don’t know. It’s funny, I said. Here I’ve been trusting you this whole time and following you. And so it’s been a interesting

journey, but that’s all of life right like. When I was 20, I left my family and moved to Oregon by myself, and actually the car broke down 2 and a half hours from where I lived, and I had like 13 h to drive.

Renee Beth Poindexter

00:03:27

Oh!

Katie Albee

00:03:28

I ended up having to go back to the town and stay for 2 weeks till my friends came, and then I wrote with him.

So and even yeah, moving to Oregon. And there’s just been a lot of my entire life has been that. So? And also in the past. I’ve always feared it and been like, Oh, gosh! What’s gonna happen next? And now

it’s shifting to be like one time, Chad Babcock, said Katie. You fear the unknown. But think about Christmas morning when you come down to the bottom of the stairs, and there’s all these gifts, and you don’t know what’s in any of them, and it’s so exciting and so shifting that to more of life.

Yeah, Hi, Melissa.

Don White

00:04:09

Good Katie! Well done!

Well done! Who would you like.

Katie Albee

00:04:14

Business. It takes a bit of consciousness to get there. I feel like and like, you know, you have to be aware.

I’m gonna let Melissa get here, and Parker’s and screen is off Renee. I’ll call on you because you’re unmuted.

Renee Beth Poindexter

00:04:27

Okay, all right, regenerative systems.

I had a great conversation with a gentleman today who will remain nameless for right now, but the idea is that the regenerative quality of living, the potential as a network, and where we’re going and offering

the opportunity for people to step in and be, you know, co-owner of a living system which is living the potential network as intergenerational

community that’s evolving to the next level. Right?

So and it has to do with succession planning. I’ve helped businesses with succession planning.

and I just realized that there’s no better time to do a succession planning than right now for me.

mainly because I might live to 120. But this near wake up call that happened to me this year brought home to me.

Gosh! You know, if I’m going to kick the bucket now.

if I want to transcend, ascend, or whatever you want to call it, I mean, I was really not in good shape, right? And I just was thinking.

what needs to be given, you know, for the next step.

so that what’s been built doesn’t just die, you know, and

it’s it’s a living system itself, intergenerational learning and and so I feel like living. The potential as a vehicle is evolving to its next

way of being so. It’s regenerating itself. And it’s like when I put my hands in the dirt, and I’m mixing the dirt with some magic crystals that make plants grow. It’s kind of like, and I water the plants. And I was like, Wow, it’s like grown 2 feet in one night. You know.

this is right environment, the right ingredients, the right plan, the right repotting and just stepping back and watching it. Right? So that’s what I’m doing with living the potential. It’s in a regenerative moment.

And I think I’ve talked to every one of you at some level. It’s like, Okay.

here’s the sandbox. What do you want to do? How to bring you to it? And what’s what it’s becoming. So I think that’s a good example. Don.

Don White

00:06:47

That’s a great, and how does your deeper understanding of this succession plan change your life.

Renee Beth Poindexter

00:06:54

Well, it’s exciting, because I get to live and see it instead of die, and not know I don’t.

Don White

00:07:02

Oh, you’re you’re gonna know, anyway, you know, when we check.

Renee Beth Poindexter

00:07:05

I know. I know it’s like, whatever the whole idea is being able to. It’s probably like a parent. I’ve never been a parent. So, Parker. Melissa, don you know you’re all parents like when you see your progeny take off on their own, and you just step back and go.

Wow! That’s a miracle.

That’s a miracle. That’s how I feel like this is my child, you know, and I feel Brent, who is my mentor. You know I picked up his thing and brought it forward into the next phase. That’s very much related. And, Parker, I’d really like to help get a copy of that book that Brent wrote around self design to everybody, I’d be glad to.

you know. Pay the mailing and all that, but you’ve got the books. But Brent’s work

was instrumental in me, recognizing

how to pay it forward, and when he was on his last days I was there.

and somehow there was a soul alignment of what was next. So now I feel like there’s a soul alignment for me on what’s next.

and I’m trying to be proactive about it before I’m on my, you know, last days.

So regenerating the soil and cultivating and cross-pollinating is what I’m doing, and you guys are all part of it

brilliant.

Whether you know it or not, you’re part of it.

Don White

00:08:26

Brilliant stuff. Thank you for all you do for all of us.

Renee Beth Poindexter

00:08:29

Oh, yeah.

Don White

00:08:30

Well, you do, and give ourselves credit. I think. I’m the guy that didn’t used to do that. I didn’t used to celebrate wins. I was always what’s next? And the self deprecating guy that was taught to be modest as a kid, I didn’t celebrate enough. Now I do.

Renee Beth Poindexter

00:08:49

Good, good.

Don White

00:08:50

So part of my mission is to help my boys celebrate, and everybody in my life, when something good happens, celebrate.

Renee Beth Poindexter

00:08:57

Right. Where are the balloons? Let me put up some balloons. Yay, react balloons.

Don White

00:09:02

And you get to pass it to.

Renee Beth Poindexter

00:09:04

What do I want to pass?

Don White

00:09:05

Melissa Parker. Peter.

There we go. How about breeders?

Renee Beth Poindexter

00:09:11

How about Peter?

Peter Luxruel

00:09:16

Thanks, Renee.

When I think of regenerative regenerative systems.

I think about the work we do. Psycho regenesis is actually

the cost, the whole cost of psychogenesis and the school that Katie and I are building.

Methylsynthesis is actually what we call psychospitual regenerative integration, and

what it is is that we recognize that through life’s infractions. And what have you? Traumas, conundrums?

Individuals have fragmentations in the psyche

because there’s a lack of clarity on the soulful purpose it creates.

it creates conflicts within the Psyche, the lower, the low, unconscious versus the high, unconscious knowledge of good versus evil.

And so, from the perspective of looking at our psyche as a system that includes subsystems and higher systems.

We think about regeneration as creating synthesis between the parts within the Psyche.

and we categorize those aspects as our sub personalities.

that there is inner conflict, and we can see the out picturing of the inner conflict within the collective, unconscious showing up, as you know, wars and border tensions.

So our mission and our aim is to

enable people to learn how to

regenerate the Psyche by integration, by integrating all of the desperate aspects of the Psyche

to link together what’s called the Rainbow Bridge, the low, unconscious, and the high, unconscious the soul. Most people have the rainbow bridge disconnected.

and so they function more from the headspace than from the heart.

So when I think again about regenerative systems. I think about

our human, individual and collective psyche, and seeing it as a system that has been deprecated.

it needs to be synthesized in order for a person to experience wholeness and

growth and unity of consciousness, unity, stage of being higher levels of consciousness. Thank you.

I’ll pass over to.

Don White

00:11:56

Oh, one moment, I boy, you’ve that was really deep. Thank you, Peter.

And my question is, how does that understand that deep understanding? You just explained. How does that enrich your life, or how does it help you help yourself? What does it do for you?

Peter Luxruel

00:12:14

Okay? Good question.

I’m born as an educator, and it empowers me to to learn more in order to

the things that we’re talking about are not new.

However, I always think about how we can expedite.

So for me, it’s like, Okay, we’re in this era. Do we want to wait the next 10 years to see, you know cataclysms and see things? Or do we want to see our earth, our world, our planet, move more into bliss.

So for us is developing systems and tools and techniques, Katie and I, that enable people to be multi dimensional in their approach to their living, thinking about things from the physical, emotional, mental, and the spiritual dimension. And we are just a bridge.

Psycho-spirituality essentially, is the bridge between the science and and the spiritual.

So we’re creating the link between what is concrete mind versus what is the spiritual dimension? And for me, how that enriches my understanding is that it enables. I can’t teach something that I haven’t attained or haven’t experienced.

so it enables my.

It enables me to become more to take the path and the journey more seriously, and be committed to my practices, my routines.

my connection with sauce, my connection to my true self and my popples.

and also to find the path which you know. Fortunately for most of us, we, we understand the master path. So

we understand that it is our connection with our inner plane masters that enable us to be faithful and committed to the assignment to finish it in this lifetime. I’ll say one more thing.

To your question, dong.

On Saturday, while we were at the Dao, we had a the master that made us, you know, do this process of prayer, and the prayer was a vow to God that in this life

we are going to complete our mission, our soul’s mission.

and that all of heaven is going to support us. The ascended masters are going to support us in completing our mission in this lifetime.

So, from a soulful perspective, in order to

help other people to attain unity of consciousness. A person has to realize it and understand it, so they can communicate it accurately

and not just communicated accurately, but also communicated in such a way that a person can digest it readily, and apply it immediately, in order to see some level of transformation, you know, with immediacy, as opposed to, you know now rather than later.

Thank you, Don, for the question. I hope that was clear.

Don White

00:15:02

Yeah, Peter, that was that was brilliant. Thank you. Who would you like to pass it to.

Peter Luxruel

00:15:06

I’ll pass to Melissa. Thank you.

Melissa Bauer

00:15:10

That is, definitely a little tough to follow, Peter. I always appreciate how deep you go.

That is not a negative statement. I’m just you definitely bring

something very different to these discussions that I absolutely appreciate.

And I wanted to make sure that I

got that opportunity to say that. So?

deep breath. Okay, so technology is not regenerative to me today.

work computer decided to misbehave home computer decided to misbehave. And I am here.

This is good.

That’s what we can do right? So regenerative systems.

I live in a world of like.

I think about this on all the levels that I can think about it as a person I am by nature regenerative. I’m constantly pulling things in putting them together to make something new happen. And so I’m constantly doing that in on myself and in my life with other people.

I’m in businesses, helping them build regenerative systems where they can actually put things into the pipeline and make and pipeline, I mean, like little like this is the conveyor belt to do the thing to get the money.

But I’m also doing that

in my massage business as well, which is not a conveyor belt. And so when I think about regenerative systems, I really think about healing.

and I think about the journey that I’ve been on as a person to heal generational trauma

like, there’s this, this sense of ownership for things that came before me that have arrived with me, that I am affecting a change in my person, so that things can go. My children can go forward without dragging this with them.

and then

doing the same thing for my clients. When they get on the table we get into the body work and helping them process what it is that’s happening

and their experiences with it so that they can choose to move forward with the pieces that make sense for them.

So.

Don White

00:17:25

Great? And how does this understanding change your life?

Melissa Bauer

00:17:31

Oh, my goodness!

Like the fields are big. Being it’s humbling.

It’s also building like it’s it’s exciting. It’s also satisfying. It feeds my heart

in a number of ways. So the more that I play in those spaces of pulling these things together to make what I make that pathway

and open myself to be a conduit

the better my life is, and the better it gets.

Don White

00:18:06

Excellent and way to rise above technology glitches. Those are little tests, in my opinion, and it tests are cool. And if we’re able to navigate the technology oopses and still do the best we can in spite of whatever’s messing up. I’m good on you, so well done.

Melissa Bauer

00:18:22

I had to laugh. The guys I work with like we have such a great sense of each other. I got this message this morning chat. And the guy goes Melissa, when her computer updates during a meeting, and it he put a meme of she hulk. And I’m like, well, he’s not wrong.

but that’s just a moment.

Don White

00:18:43

Just a moment.

Just a moment. All right, Parker, over to you. Thanks, Melissa.

Parker

00:18:51

Well, Hello! And thank you always for making us laugh, Melissa, even at yourself. That’s good regeneration, I think.

Laughing at yourself is a good thing.

Actually, it’s it’s kind of part of the theme.

regeneration in the Hindu world is Tamasikbi, you know, there’s 3 levels of growth, Rajas and balance sattva and

regeneration, or recycling, or the waste, or even the dark side.

It’s sometimes described as tamasic, but it’s necessary right. The the plants must

die and be reborn in the soil. And

so my the theme this week for me is I had a friend ask me recently.

was I more interested in recognition or recognition.

You said, Boy, that’s a big one, right? Because it involves

letting go of. I mean, if you’re recognizing

and letting go of the outcomes of your regenerative efforts, children’s behavior, success, and how they treat others.

how they treat themselves.

So. That’s been a really big one like I’m

I spend my whole life as a parent trying to create an outcome, positive outcome for my kids, and then

come to some point where I have to let go of the outcome completely.

Otherwise I well, what I run the risk of dial

of jailing, you know, not allowing them to pursue their own liberation, so I have to let go, so

that they don’t feel the need to have to push away the the constraints, self-imposed constraints.

Maybe those are the ones that are both the dark side and also necessary. Right? We always hear that sort of

homonym about how children need boundaries for a healthy place in

psychically. And you know, communally, socially. So.

yeah, how has it affected my life? Well, Don, I guess I committed to finding that liberation, that freedom, that letting go

that new balance that sattva between having to hyper engineer and completely ignore.

That’s tricky. That’s a tricky place to be. But actually.

what if it wasn’t right. Oh, it’s a hard. I’m having a hard day. This is a hard time. This is really difficult, is it? Really?

I mean, really, really, I mean? Has anybody banged on your door? Can you still pay the bills?

Are the hospitals still open?

Do I still talk to my Canadian friends so and

will the war go on forever? No. So

That’s my place is to seek the balance among the maelstrom, the hurricane, and

that’s something I focus on every day. Now.

Don White

00:22:36

Thank you, Parker, and all of these comments remind me

of what I think is probably our certainly one of our best examples of a regenerative system. It’s nature.

And how do we fit? How do we want to fit?

How does it energize us and rejuvenate us?

And I’ve been big into nature since I was a kid. I I knew as a middle schooler that I wasn’t a church guy.

and I found the pine grove up at the Canada Lake, and

then decades later I learned about spirituality, and I’m like, Well, that didn’t that all fit? And fortunately I followed

my instincts as a kid, and fortunately I had parents that didn’t jam up a religious faith down my throat, and they gave me some slack

and

So how has that changed my life, this deeper understanding of of how everything’s connected in nature.

It’s enabled me to find peace.

And I had some work done during my divorce. I certainly wasn’t at peace then. I was a train wreck.

and the gal I worked with she channels.

and she looked at me and she said.

you want to find peace in your life? I said, Yeah, I do, she said one day. You’ll have it. And here I am 20 years later, and I’ve got it.

So it’s it’s very interesting the way these things tend to go full circle and close and

so thank you, everybody. Those were really

deep, good comments, no surprise. This is a cool group to get together and do this kind of introspective

questioning with. It’s a pleasure hearing everybody’s responses for me

we just had Earth day.

and it just happened to work out

that I did a 7 mile hike on Earth day.

and I still hurt Parker. I ache like a.

My legs are not used to doing what they were doing. The hip was great, hip was awesome, and my quads are burning still 2 days later, and it’s kind of typical. I’ve done that all my life. I would

do something. It was a really hard workout for me, and then I hurt for a couple of days, and the muscle builds, and you feel better.

So anyway, everything’s connected. I had the thought about the Fukushima

peace in Japan when the nuke plant, the power plant

and all that radioactive water started leaking into the ocean.

And oh, by the way, they’ve done scientific testing on all the fish around the full Pacific basin, and they can find traces of radiation nuclear stuff in all the fish.

So everything, no matter what we do, it’s it’s all connected.

So how does this sufficiency, this knowing knowing we’re all connected?

What are some of your comments on that? Or does anyone have a comment.

This was in Rene best 1, st 1st video for for the weekly work.

And and it hit me about

wealth. Our health is connected. It’s all connected.

So does that, knowing, how does that?

What does it do for you? How does it help you? Or how does it help you?

Katie Albee

00:26:02

Question that you asked.

Don White

00:26:05

Yeah, how does, knowing that everything’s connected help you.

Katie Albee

00:26:09

Oh, yeah, yeah. So my neighbor is also my tenant

and he was told by Val Hoyle, one of the

you know representatives here in Oregon. She was telling everybody that pretty soon they’re not gonna have their social security, and he’s older. He relies on social security, and also, writes. He’s writing an autobiography for a local man.

and so then I said, don’t worry about it, Alex. We know you know your friend, that you moved here in the beginning to

be friends with Fran, who’s passed now. She would have told you to wait until something happens to worry about it, she said.

I know I agree, Katie. Also. They already took my food money away. So June 1st I no longer have food money.

and then about 2 weeks ago he messaged me and said, I’m going to the hospital, but it’s okay. Don’t worry.

And he pretty much almost put himself into a heart attack because of money. And so today I went and talked to. Well, yesterday I said, Hey, what do you think about actually using Lifewave as a financial opportunity because he’s been watching my dog, and my dog was sore, and so we’ve been patching him, and he keeps reinjuring himself. But it’s fine we’re getting somewhere.

and so I said, we talked today. And he said, You know, actually learning about it. More is a really good idea, and I’m open to learning more about it.

And I said, Yeah, I actually wrote on my bathroom mirror that financial stress will break your body down. And he said, I know I feel it right now. And I said, I know you almost put yourself in the hospital for a heart attack, and he agreed. 100. So it’s interesting to see that we all are connect, like everything is connected. And then, yeah, like, I think we talked about before meditating on.

And the streams are a representation of our

our dirty streams and our bloodstreams and our polluted systems are direct representations of. So we have to start treating ourselves better, and also the systems like, I don’t always buy organic food, but knowing that when we do, then we’re buying into a better system, right? And so it’s nice to know that we can start to grow into that.

That’s all.

Don White

00:28:11

Cool. Thanks, Katie, for that. Anyone else want to comment or would like to comment about. Everything’s connected. It’s a big one. You can go anywhere with this.

Melissa Bauer

00:28:20

I see it all the time.

People get on my table and they walk in the door, and they’re like, Oh, my back! And then I get in and find out that their feet are just battered.

And so, you know, there’s that impact where I’m working on somebody’s right shoulder, and they’re talking about their left big toe. They’re like, why is that connected? I’m like, well, let’s talk about fascia.

And so yeah, I mean, there’s

I see it all the time on the table. And then I see it all the time in technology systems. You know, it’s it’s all the series of ones and zeros. It’s all on and off. Something’s off somewhere in the system that’s not supposed to be. You get some unexpected results.

So that’s in my face all the time, and I don’t.

Don White

00:29:05

Are you? Are you finding people open to questioning you about when you say it’s all connected? Do you get? Follow up questions.

Melissa Bauer

00:29:14

It depends sometimes. Yes.

Renee Beth Poindexter

00:29:18

Yeah.

Melissa Bauer

00:29:19

Yeah, it just I mean, it depends on the level of curiosity some of the work that I do, the clients that gravitate towards me, for massage

often come to me because they have chronic

conditions that they’ve been dealing with, and they haven’t been able to find somebody to help them find a path.

And so I just do.

And they come out. And they’re like, Oh, that’s what’s going on. Now I can go, and I can do this, or I can do that, or I can do whatever I want to do like. Yes, you can.

so.

Don White

00:29:53

Cool, and you probably sincerely.

Melissa Bauer

00:29:54

They’re like, I don’t want to know.

Go that I’m sorry, Don.

Don White

00:29:58

And you probably sense release points for the individual. Do or do you? If I work on this foot, I’m gonna help this person process XY, or z, maybe.

Melissa Bauer

00:30:10

I have people that get very curious like this is one of those things those people that are more like, I can tell that they’re more open to sort of the divine spaces

like you can get this sense of interest and curiosity.

And yes, I can put my hands on somebody, and I get I don’t necessarily get go here. I get sort of it’s like a magnetic pull.

And so I get the sensation that I need to be in a specific place or space with somebody.

and usually I go there and we find the work we need to do.

Renee Beth Poindexter

00:30:46

Exactly.

Melissa Bauer

00:30:48

Yeah.

Renee Beth Poindexter

00:30:49

I’d like to add something.

you know the videos, Paul Hawken, and draw down. I have that book and the whole thing about climate and what’s happening. And

you know, unless you have that awareness, and maybe it’s a consciousness understanding that

we’re part of nature. We’re not separate, and how we treat. Nature

has some reflection in how we treat ourselves in some way, because that’s connected.

And I’d love to tell the story about Florette. Florette is a woman that Parker and I know

who’s 95, and she is an amazing being, and she is a nun. She lives in Halifax.

and she’s in a

a center where nuns go once they’re ready to live with other people in community, and

she’s just always been fascinated about nature and how things work and so forth. And what she noticed is that

how the food is prepared in this center.

and where the food comes from the garden.

and who the who works with the food, and how the people are nourished in this community.

and how awake and bright, and a light that full everybody is happy and joyful.

and she was saying, I think it’s connected. It’s all connected like how we feel. It’s related to what we eat, but not only what we eat, but how it’s made, and where it comes from, and how everybody’s together here in this sense of community. And it’s like, Wow, that’s where I want to live?

Do I have to become a nun? I don’t know. But you know the other video here about the you know the Netherlands and the region villages.

because I think that’s the future. And, Katie, you have a friend in your community that does these tiny homes, and the idea of having land where we grow our own food. And you know we nourish each other. And it’s intergenerational. That’s the vision I see, and that we have the technology to help bring that together.

and that’s kind of where I want to.

That’s what I envision about the future.

It’s like, does everybody need a washing machine? No.

Can we come together and share a garden and food and

have shared. You know, technology, that not everyone has to be this consumer, crazy person.

But that’s the interconnection to nature and health and healing. That, I think, is really important, and

somehow or another our society is conditioned us to.

you know, be more consumers than what would be the word

acknowledging the energy of what’s here, and how to really nourish and support each other?

Instead, we have these competitive systems. And what if we cross, pollinated and collaborated and

live more simply with the earth? You know.

I think that’s the future. And I think there’s more and more people that think like this.

And I think that guy. I want to follow him. I I need to look up and see what he’s doing with other region villages, because I know it started in the Netherlands. I’m not ready to.

I’m kind of ready to leave the United States in some ways.

I’ve got a space.

Don White

00:34:08

Today, Rene Beth. I was curious, too. I go today and I didn’t find any big update if they talk. The the links I found, went back to the Netherlands, and there’s I think, there are a couple in the United States. I didn’t dig too much, but I was hoping to find a bunch more information that this thing’s taking off.

Renee Beth Poindexter

00:34:26

Yeah.

Don White

00:34:27

May be under a different name. I.

Renee Beth Poindexter

00:34:28

Right.

Don White

00:34:29

Into different names. But it’s really cool. Who here can see themselves living in one of these little region villages or self-sustaining.

Renee Beth Poindexter

00:34:36

I want to. I think there’s other people, other developers. Parker lives in a community already. Right, Parker, you have a community where you share resources and things. Is that right?

Parker

00:34:48

Yeah, I live in a co-OP. I’m not sure if those are

that term even is familiar. But

it’s like a commune. 50 different units and townhouse style.

We own the property. It’s a freehold land, which means we own the land, but collectively.

and we manage it collectively. So

we share resources. And we have committees to do all the various components. People specialize finance, maintenance, social.

etc. Ev in my case right now.

So. But yeah, I mean.

there are many examples of these around the world. In fact.

without beating it without beating. I hate that analogy without with bringing up a positive

effort from some children in the nineties. At virtual high wonder tree self designed, there was a they built a project, for with Brent Cameron for an intentional village in the heart of Vancouver.

which is now the most, some of the most expensive real estate in our country.

right on False Creek, and

that intentional village called Village Quest, was actually designed with an architect who built the Gravel Island area sort of the pier 49, I guess of Vancouver and

Those kids worked with on understanding and mapping out and project, managing their own food growth, their own waste management, their own energy generation their own water treatment. I mean, it was amazing. And

yeah, cool, cool side effect of that was that after presenting it to the city of Vancouver and the the construction on the south side of False Creek was

halted, and the big developer from

Hong Kong Concord, Pacific, Shanghai Shek, one of the billionaires of Asia

was denied access to it. So it actually it didn’t. It was still undeveloped. And then in the Olympics they built townhouses and things, and those were since sold off to foreign investors without any Canadians, sadly but

ironically. But at the time it was well done it was, and they were recognized. So so the but the the concept of an intentional village.

you know, with

and and of course, just those are the physicalities. Right? We’re talking. We’re not talking about the higher

I think the the next level of integration. So I mean, I’ve been in this co-OP for 20 years.

and what’s amazing is, I know my neighbors

better than just about anybody. I know, in fact, better than anybody I know who owns a home anywhere in the city of Vancouver, from one end to the other.

They’ll know their neighbor, one or 2 or 3, maybe, but they don’t know the street, and they don’t meet with them, and they don’t, whereas here we’re kind of forced together.

and also, people are just happy to be here.

Really excited and honored, especially the people with young kids because they’ve got

families and babysitting and all ages intergenerational, right from babies to grandparents dying for an opportunity to hang out with kids or to have a conversation. So we’ve got our own built-in kind of

regenerative system here.

and we look after the old. One of our committees is aging in place, you know. So

we look after the 80 year old Vietnamese woman who’s the plant whisperer.

and whatever you know, whatever we can do for now we do, because she’s just one of

a hundred, right? So that’s that’s actually cool. And I’ll leave you with a quote from Neil Degrasse Tyson, who said.

get this, there are more atoms

in a liter of water, which is one, about 32 ounces.

so a 1 and a quarter bottles, hard bar

spirits. So there’s more. There are more there are more atoms in a liter of water than there are glasses of water, liters of water in the ocean.

Think about that. So what he said was.

every single person who’s ever lived on the earth has passed through your body, probably, or at least

you know a very high chance probability of that, including every illuminary.

Renee Beth Poindexter

00:39:48

Right? Exactly.

Yeah.

Parker

00:39:51

So yeah, we’re we’re all connected. And

I guess I would say that just to finish here I would say,

Renee Beth Poindexter

00:40:09

Hmm.

Parker

00:40:11

We’re golden, we are golden. We’re caught in the devil’s bargain.

and we’ve got to get ourselves back to the garden.

Renee Beth Poindexter

00:40:20

Oh, yeah, what song was that? What song was that?

Parker

00:40:24

Woodstock, by Joni Mitchell.

Renee Beth Poindexter

00:40:25

Oh, that’s true!

By Crosby Stills and Nash, because.

Parker

00:40:30

Sung it, for she dictated.

Renee Beth Poindexter

00:40:31

Right, exactly. And we sang that song in our 1st garden experiment

question abeth. That was your request.

That’s right.

Knew that words of that I just need you to sing it for me, Barker.

when we had our 1st garden experiment, which was in Washington, DC.

In 2019, and Don was there.

and we were going to do a lot of these live events that we’ve now done online. But

it was taking people through the 5 steps of seeds, and cultivating and cross-pollinating with projects, and with that with dilemmas that the kids who were on the panel said that they were most concerned about.

and then we we did workshop on each one of those things, and came up with solutions. So.

Don White

00:41:20

Yeah, and it it was powerful and a fun little tidbit.

Renee was.

Renee Beth Poindexter

00:41:26

There!

Don White

00:41:27

No, it was. It was unicorn. I’m gonna be the nice one. I’m not gonna.

Renee Beth Poindexter

00:41:30

Okay?

Well, the idea is that when you’re in the midst of truth and you’re working with, you know, like you could have an agenda or whatever. But when the people start showing up and participating, we planted seeds, you know, like Katie, you’re going to be doing

on your padlock this week

planting seeds and little planners, so that people could realize that they have seeds within them

just like seeds and dirt, that we’re part of this universe, you know.

because most people don’t see the connection of everything unless you give them an experience with some reflection. And they go. Oh, yeah, I never thought about it like that, you know.

It’s kind of amazing. Back to the garden.

Let’s bring that up.

Don White

00:42:15

What a great quality of life story you’re living! I think it’s brilliant, and it sounds like you’re just really happy there.

And that leads into Katie. You had a comment on page 3 of your notes about

what networks are you? Part of? And you mentioned Gaia? The shift network, Tony Robbins

mind Valley living the potential

And you commented that it’s easier to make good decisions as consciousness goes up. Do you want to expand on that a little bit, because it ties right into what Parker was saying for me a few minutes ago about being part of a community and being connected with your neighbors, and etc, etc.

Katie Albee

00:42:58

Yes, and really quick, I wanna go back because Peter didn’t go through the stages of like the

trusting the seeds and stuff. And at some point I really liked that.

There was a video. And the person said, We adults don’t know what kids problems are like. 64 years from now, we can’t figure out the solutions that they’re going to need. They know what those their problems are so like thinking about. The

pod looks that you guys were doing

in person, and the whole premise of living. The potential is finding those

seeds. And yes, so actually, I talked to somebody recently.

and she had a son that she still has a son that’s 18. And I was talking to her about Rene’s program, and she’s like very much a gatekeeper. And it’s okay.

And one thing that I said, because you know in the past it was truly about who you know. I remember reading somewhere. They said, 95% of getting a job is who you know. And I really like this because it is truly about networks. Now, like I feel like there’s a lot more strength than numbers. So a woman reached out to me, and she was like.

I want to come to your

retreat in Mexico. But what is your company’s credentials? And I’m like

Peter and I are just barely putting our businesses together, said, we don’t have any credentials, but what I can tell you is that we’re new merging business, and I can send you everybody’s Facebook, so you can go check them all out and see what we’re all about in that sense.

And then I said, You know, I just created this guided meditation. It’s not done yet. I still haven’t redone it.

However, you can just have this as a gift and in a couple of hours I’ll get back to you. And after a couple of hours she messaged and she was trying to pay, and it’s $1,500, and she’s never met me. And the

link didn’t work over and over. It didn’t work, and then it did work for her to pay half. And so she did, and so

I did tell her, hey, when you pay the other half. I’m going to give you a 50%, or I’m going to give you a free energy work session because I really appreciate that she didn’t know me. And this link didn’t work, and she still did it again and again. And now, yeah. So I think that if it weren’t for Trish, trish, Trish is the one that introduced me. So we’re building this network in this community. And so as we build these communities, I do believe it gives us more.

not validation. But there’s a word like that that I’m looking for. That won’t come to my mind. Thank you.

Renee Beth Poindexter

00:45:34

Well, that’s interesting. I’d just like to comment on credentials and credibility.

right credentials and credibility, because you have the credibility. You know what I mean, it’s like

there’s a lot of people that have a lot of initials after their name, but they haven’t done their inner work to even know who they are. They accumulated things right. Do we know people like that? Right? So to have

credibility within yourself as a credential, and the people who speak on your behalf.

It’s what they remember. It’s not like. How many degrees does she have, anyway? That’s my feeling about

doing the inner work from the inside out the way you’ve been doing it.

you know. You’ll probably get an honorary Phd. Someday.

Don White

00:46:22

I think the credentials are going to go away. I think they’re on. I think that is well underway. It’s still got a long way to go. But and and for some professions, of course, you need the the training and the expertise, but I think for a lot of it, the credentials are not as important as they used to be.

Katie Albee

00:46:42

And I was having some weird feelings for a minute and and then it was really cool, because I got offered an opportunity to co-author a book with the Dalai Lama, Michael Beckwith.

Marianne Williamson, and Jack Canfield, and

financially, I am Gonna do some stuff to make the money to get there, and I’ve already signed the contract, and I was like

feeling weird about not having credentials. And then I realized, Hey, that lady asked me to be a part of this book based off, of literally just watching me on Facebook. And so because she knows me through summary.

Don White

00:47:16

Well done, Katie. Well done! And that’ll connect you to other things. You have no idea that’s brilliant.

Katie Albee

00:47:23

That’s why I said yes, cause, I said, you have to take this opportunity. And, Melissa, thanks for letting me finish, because I did see that you were unmuted. There.

Parker

00:47:32

Goodness, Katie, that’s so awesome. By the way, yeah, just fantastic.

Yeah, actually, I just want to jump in and say, credentials, what is that

we’re all sort of defaulting on some sort of

externally authorized body we all agree on, you know. Some portion of our organ society agrees on, gives people the right to be

okay. So yeah, I mean, the Medical Health Board of your State

gives doctors the right to practice brain surgery.

Yeah, that’s probably one that’s worth having a really tight control on right or heart surgery. Or you know, my buddy, my buddy, shu Manjay Shu Sanitani, who

he does pediatric cardiology. That’s basically heart surgery on preemies like, that’s his morning.

So okay. And I love the fact that today, credentials is.

I want you to actually think about this in a really big way. I think, Renee, I just wanted to reiterate what Rene was think, saying exactly.

It’s just that, you know. You’ve got a lifetime of paying attention

and being smart and wise, and thoughtful and introspective, and doing the work.

and being authentic and honest, and all those kinds of things. And there’s your credentials.

Actually ask her how many people have that on their behind their name.

Renee Beth Poindexter

00:49:05

Yeah, right? Exactly.

Parker

00:49:08

Oh, a Phd, really! But do you know who you are?

Renee Beth Poindexter

00:49:14

I’ll go ahead.

Parker

00:49:14

There you go!

Melissa Bauer

00:49:16

It’s an interesting space in Minnesota, because massage therapy is not State licensed.

So it actually is not a requirement to be a massage therapist in the State of Minnesota and to have any education.

Wow, this is actually problematic. So individual cities

come up with the licensing requirements. So it is wild to try and move the business or be mobile.

Renee Beth Poindexter

00:49:45

It’s insane.

Melissa Bauer

00:49:47

So when we talk about credentials in that space, right?

I have a 2 year degree. I’m actually overqualified in a lot of spaces, so

credentials is all about what?

Whose standard you’re trying to meet.

Renee Beth Poindexter

00:50:04

Right of the things.

Yeah, exactly. And when you’re called overqualified, it’s usually because you’re intimidating to the person that’s gonna oversee you. And they don’t want to feel stupid in your presence, because they don’t know who they are, and they’re comparing themselves to you. And that’s what we teach. Start around 5th grade and normal education, typical education. It’s like

comparison. And you know, that’s what the problem with social media is for a lot of young people.

They don’t know.

Melissa Bauer

00:50:33

Probably with that like care about methodology of life and business.

Renee Beth Poindexter

00:50:39

Right? Exactly

so. The reason I put lifewave is a view, you know, as a conscious business in this model

is because I think I have some credibility in my experience, my business experience.

I’ve done a lot of work with fortune, 500 companies and small independent entrepreneur companies and relationship marketing industry. But I’ve never met a gentleman like David Schmidt.

whose vision is to really uplift people to recognize. They’re part of nature, not separate from it.

and that we’re part of the light. And so it’s kind of like he was. He chose relationship marketing as a vehicle to help

have a system to educate and empower people

to share what they know and get paid to help others be successful. And there’s some real negative stuff around the industry itself.

But it’s kind of like.

you know, bad Chinese restaurants, you know, I’ve had food poisoning in Chinese. Does that mean all Chinese restaurants are bad?

No. So, looking at the integrity of a person. And that’s what I look at

the integrity of a company that has a model that’s really living into

the recognition that we’re all connected. We’re not separate, and we’re part of the light. And how do we help others awaken to that? And oh, by the way, we can transform the way we look at money and time and support.

It’s an example of what I think is a very conscious company.

So that’s why, if there’s other conscious companies like, you know what, Parker, I’d like to include your Co-OP as part of

the regenerative systems, because, as an example

of how a people can live and work together in a co-OP. So yeah, my vision was to have property where everybody has their little tiny home and a big place where they cook together, and there’s a library and a workout room, but everybody’s in a tiny home with a shared garden. This might not happen in my lifetime, maybe, but it probably could help co-generate a co-OP like you’ve got. You know what I mean. What’s the model for that?

You probably could write about that and help others if you wanted to. And there’s lots of people right now. They’re looking like there’s got to be a better way. We can’t afford houses.

real estate markets, crazy interest rates are nuts. You know. What are we going to do?

We’re gonna live together in community with systems. And what does technology have to do with that?

Just a thought of what companies and organizations can we point to right.

Don White

00:53:14

Yeah. And with all of what Rene just said, we’re going to solve big problems with that approach, in my opinion.

And that leads us into Paul Hawken. I’d like to jump into him for a few minutes.

Renee Beth Poindexter

00:53:26

Yeah. I’d like to have him over for dinner.

Don White

00:53:28

Talk about a big thinker. That guy is a luminary, and he’s funny. He’s so bloody brilliant, and he makes it interesting. And how about that comment about the sphere of at that time. It was 7.3 billion people the size of that industrial park, or whatever his analogy was in California on a sphere. Okay? So they’re on a sphere. But that’s not a big area.

I was thinking the size of a state or something like that for 7.3 billion people, maybe on a flat surface it would be more. But holy smokes.

So then my question and and, Peter, I’d like you to to weigh in from your point of view, please, about

Project Drawdown.

And you know a lot of us hear these.

he commented. The negative stories from the media

that say, Oh, this thing’s impossible, and we’re all doomed, and all of this stuff.

And then Paul Hawking comes and said, it’s all doable.

and he lists hundreds of organizations working on their little pieces. So, Peter, what are some of your impressions about Project drawdown, and does it ring for you? And what do you think?

Peter Luxruel

00:54:43

Yeah, I like his idea about the fact that

you know the the future is predicated on what we think it will be. It’s not cast in stone right?

And so when we see numbers projecting or trying to predict the future, I think it’s an illusion.

I think that is what we do today that determines what happens tomorrow.

And the other thing is that the ability to understand that every problem has a solution.

And most of the time, the the world we’re focused typically on the problem and talking about the problem.

and I guess that’s 1 side of it.

And the way he’s able to bring minds together, brains together to say, Hey, let us create the future by analyzing what we’ve done wrong in the past.

I think that’s brilliant.

I think also that if we are able to, as a collective change, our psychology or our philosophy of being.

to recognize that

there is abundance of resources. There isn’t scarcity of resources. It’s not a 0 sum game in finance. It’s always like one person wins. The other person loses

that we’re able to ensure that there is digital diversity, you know, knowledge, diversity, you know.

in multiple dimensions. So that

we create a society, a civilization that recognizes that when there is a part of this ecosystem that we call humanity that is

functioning below par in discord, that it’s going to affect another aspect of society.

Inevitably, because it’s like we said, it’s all connected.

Something happening in the Middle East could actually affect somewhere in China

with unconsciously through, you know, storms and natural disasters.

And I think that we are getting there. Predictions are that

humans will begin to activate our etheric vision.

and as we are able to see etherically, we recognize that every thought has an implication on on the fabric of reality.

So you know, in terms of what he’s bringing. I know it’s

The reason why some of this conversation, sometimes for me I’m trying to integrate is because I speak typically from the 4th and 5th dimension. I try to merge it with the 3 dimensional reality. But yeah, living inside out essentially means that we’re able to balance. Recognizing that what’s happening within our consciousness is what’s reflected on the external.

And so the way he has listed. You know all of this 100 problems, and here are the solutions to all of the 100 problems. And here’s the top

top 10. I love the fact that, you know they talked about something as simple as educating girls.

You know the implication of undermining the feminine power

affects society because it extricates or it eradicates the connection between the heart and the head. And what has affected our civilization today that we have developed and progressed because we only focused on the mental plane and we ignored

the the Astro.

So

I guess, as we evolve in evolution from an evolutionary perspective, our understanding of being connected not only just on the 3 dimensional plane.

but the 4th and the 5, th enable us to make decisions that recognize that we are the creators of the future. It’s not the other way around that we can use statistical data to analyze and predict what will happen in the future. But we can today say that this is what we want to see in the future. You know this doomsday ideology that people have about AI or technology that oh, technology will one day. You know.

it all depends on what we think today about technology. If people believe that technology would be, you know, destroy humans. Blah, blah, then that’s a that’s

something that will be in the collective, unconscious. But we can think differently and create thought forms

that manifest a reality for each one of us that is closer to heaven on earth.

I hope that don’t see your question. I tried to tie in a little bit of the esoteric.

Don White

00:59:27

Yeah, I have a 1 word. Summary. Wow! It’s all good, Peter. It’s all good. Thank you.

I’d like to send you off with a just

a what if question? And then we’re going to do a summary. We’ll all do weigh in with our feedback for today. But please imagine and please come back next week with a few thoughts of what you’ve chewed on

over this next week in the next set of work.

Imagine imagine changes enabled by technology over the next 20 to 100 years and beyond.

And then something that may stimulate a little thought. Many suggest that we will be communicating with other beings, using quantum communication technologies that haven’t been invented yet.

So just kind of let yourself go. And then there’s

and then let’s have a little bit of a maybe the the

the check in how about if we do the the check-in for the next class of what your imagination? Where did your imagination take you looking at 20 next 20 to a hundred years out.

And of course we’re going to get it wrong. It’s not about getting it right, but it’s just about allowing ourselves the gift of imagination to what Peter said. We become what we think about.

So then, to wrap it up, who would like to begin

your thoughts about today, and then I’ll put together a little clip and put it in the in the Forum.

Okay, I’ll start.

And then I’m gonna get to choose somebody.

Oh, boy, it’s it’s it’s all connected.

And how brilliant it is to see that

and have the ability to then connect additional dots as we go forward, and our relationships evolve and change and

I do my best to help my son see it. I challenge them today. The little thing.

They get a lot of dad texts.

I bet they make comments when I’m not in the string. There he goes again.

But today I challenged him. I said, You know, it begins with us. And what can you guys do

to make a difference? And I want you to go buy some laundry detergent sheets, and then think about how many plastic jugs of laundry detergent for the rest of your life. Will you not buy? They won’t have to be manufactured that you don’t have to transport the heavy stuff. Blah blah! And I just got them thinking, and I sent them the link. Will they try it? I’ll ask them in a few months and see what happens.

But I encourage all of us to challenge the loved ones in our life and our friends to take step.

It’s all connected, and I would like to pass it over to.

Okay, Katie, you’re up.

Katie Albee

01:02:26

Okay. I’m just gonna say a couple of words. Also, when we were in Canada there were 10 jugs of downy just sitting on outside of somebody’s house.

I don’t. I still don’t know why they were all there. Maybe one of the Canadians can tell us it was a very weird thing. So I would say, expansive, which is funny, because that was kind of when Peter had a call earlier. That was the word that was coming to me but expansive worldview. So thanks for helping expand my worldview guys. And I’ll call on Melissa.

Melissa Bauer

01:02:59

And I was just thinking

what a gift we have right, what a gift we have for this time together! What a gift we have to step into ourselves and step out into the world.

So let’s see, Peter, would you like to do? You have comments.

Peter Luxruel

01:03:27

Thanks, Melissa.

This was quite an interesting discussion. Well, all of them are so. Thanks, Renee.

The concept that Nietzsche doesn’t waste.

You know God is quite prudent in how He has designed the system, you know.

Permaculture, you know, being beginning to apply that more even in with myself. Sometimes I

you know my eggs, I’m like, you know. Let’s not throw away some food and things like that, because

some people say that they have poor children in Africa that haven’t, you know, starving children in Africa that haven’t eaten.

and they are starving people in all parts of the world, not just starving for food, but starving for knowledge as well.

so yeah, nature doesn’t waste. Be more regenerative in in all of the resources that we have energy, time money.

Making sure that for measuring, paying attention and monitoring.

That’s my key, takeaway. Thank you.

Don White

01:04:39

Over to you, Parker.

Parker

01:04:48

thanks to some, would call a crisis, others would call an opportunity.

My wife and I and many other of my fellow Canadians have found this guests on Earth hand. Soap

equals 5 giant bottles of hand soap in this little bag

made here in Canada, and they give 1% to the planet.

But even better this little bag of powder.

We’ll do 180 loads of laundry, downy people.

Renee Beth Poindexter

01:05:34

Oh!

Parker

01:05:34

So Canadian also in my backyard. I never knew about it until

we were forced to look beyond

the obvious sources of laundry detergent for a variety of reasons, and

also in response to this opportunity

Canada has now is now in the process of transforming its economy. Instead of creating barriers across provinces.

We’re now opening up to free trade across our whole country, and because our major customer of softwood lumber

may no longer be interested in purchasing our softwood.

We’re now going to create modular prefab beautiful housing across Canada

as a place to sell all that wood

and create an energy corridor from British Columbia, from Vancouver all the way to St. John’s, Newfoundland, 5,400 miles.

So it’s really interesting to think about regenerating

the most, the longest held relationship at a national level.

If that can be done.

it’s not. It’s just a transformation, right? But it’s a really interesting theme for today. And what’s going on.

And I think we’re all hoping to kind of

return to a more balanced place in as soon as possible.

but also like from from when you think about like my community and what that means, and as a model, perhaps for

the way we think we have to live in single family housings, and

you know there’s a block with 12 houses and 12 lawn mowers. Well, really, do you really need 12 lawn mowers on a block or 12 weed eaters, or 12 power washers, or 12 of all of this stuff.

So anyway, I just

I guess my my thoughts are rethinking what’s possible and efficient, and you know, some side effects, as I mentioned, are really quite beautiful, which are

having.

you know, the the 80 year old Vietnamese woman or Maria from Ukraine, both single 80 year old. Women

feel really, really connected to all kinds of people around them, and not isolated in their home, or maybe even in a

where, it’s quite something. And back to Floret. Florette is yeah, she’s

she’s created a legacy by just sharing what she does. And perhaps that’s our responsibility, too.

Renee Beth Poindexter

01:08:26

Yeah, exactly.

Okay. I think it’s my turn. Thank you.

Don White

01:08:32

Take us home, Reneeba.

Renee Beth Poindexter

01:08:33

Okay, I was just gonna say that you know a lot of times. People use the word sustainable

systems. And I think I make the point. That regenerative really, you know, sustainable maintains what currently exists.

and what we want to do is, I think, the energy of the future that’s calling us forward is this regenerative quality of

actually allowing the highest and best good sufficiency to emerge.

That includes everyone.

And that means diversity, equity, and inclusion. You’re right.

And so we need systems that heal and revitalize people.

And that is our personal work as we revitalize ourselves.

And also the ecosystem we’re part of

and to notice, where are we spending our money.

and what choices are we making that’s related to our core values? If we’re really committed to regenerizing, regenerative, regenerative community.

So thank you, Parker, for your choices of sharing. And maybe this is another thing we can put on. The network is regenerative

consumerism, or whatever we want to call it, you know, conscious money, our conscious contribution, you know so much of what we’re doing here is like wherever you go. There you are. So let’s just regenerate from the inside out.

I loved all your sharing today. Thank you, Don, for your I think you’re going to close right with your question, or did you? You already did it.

Don White

01:10:11

Yeah, I I did. I kicked us off there with us

the thing and put it on the Forum. Please comment on the Forum. If you there’s some other input on the Forum that is pretty, I think it’s pretty good, and there’s some interesting comments. So please jump in. If you.

Renee Beth Poindexter

01:10:27

Yeah, we’re trying to demonstrate this idea of community using technology regenerating itself. So.

Don White

01:10:34

Yeah. And and there are other networks that are looking at us. And if we can show them how it’s done on the form, it’s gonna kinda help us.

Renee Beth Poindexter

01:10:42

Right. Thank you.

Don White

01:10:43

For us, so.

Renee Beth Poindexter

01:10:44

Absolutely, we’re doing something we’re ahead of our time at, hey.

there are multiple levels going on.

Don White

01:10:50

Thanks, everybody.

Renee Beth Poindexter

01:10:51

Thank you. Appreciate y’all.

Thank you, Don. Awesome job as usual.

Don White

01:10:56

Thanks, Renee.